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Toy Transforms Into Novel UI

Rich Quinnell
Ryszard Milewicz
Ryszard Milewicz
2/13/2012 6:12:11 PM
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Kinect Challenge
There is a contest for students: Imagine Cup 2012 Kinect Fun Labs Challenge and I think soon hundreds of new ideas will be available.


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Rich Quinnell
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2/13/2012 8:05:01 PM
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Re: Kinect Challenge
Ryszard, do yyou have a link for that contest? It sounds interesting.

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Microp
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2/14/2012 12:01:22 AM
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Re: Kinect Challenge
Ryszard, can you share the kinetic fun challenge link with the community, so that interested peoples can have a look for that. It seems that Kinetic have a vast potential for implementing in many applications.

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Ryszard Milewicz
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2/14/2012 9:08:59 AM
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Re: Kinect Challenge
There is also The Kinect Accelerator

http://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/kinectaccelerator/

but deadline for the application process was January 25th.

'Through this program, Microsoft is supporting entrepreneurs, engineers and innovators to bring to life a wide range of business ideas that leverage the limitless possibilities Kinect enables.'

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Microp
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2/14/2012 10:22:44 PM
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Re: Kinect Challenge
Thanks Ryszard. You had provided enough links and resources, but it seems that the challenge deadlines are over. So we can wait for the best outcomes.

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Ryszard Milewicz
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2/15/2012 6:12:19 AM
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Re: Kinect Challenge
Kinect Accelerator is over but ImagineCup Round 1 submissions are due by 23:59 PM GMT on 06 March 2012, so there is some time to enter this challenge.


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Microp
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2/15/2012 6:16:25 AM
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Re: Kinect Challenge
Ryszaed, Thanks for your kind info. Surlly i will look to it to for any psooible submission.

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Nemos
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2/13/2012 6:53:41 PM
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A digital Piano
I looked at the video for kinect; it is amazing {kinect] .A good idea also for implementation could be in every input device (like mouse,keyboards,keypads,digital pen) and in instruments. Can you imaging a digital piano ;)

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Rich Quinnell
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2/13/2012 8:06:42 PM
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Re: A digital Piano
Digital piano, drum set, guitar, almost any kind of instrument that you pluck or strike. Almost like air guitar, but making real music.

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northstar
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2/14/2012 3:15:33 AM
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SoftKinetic
And here is the competition :-) 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softkinetic

http://www.techspot.com/news/42600-softkinetic-releases-free-3d-gesture-sdk-before-microsoft.html

http://venturebeat.com/2012/01/16/softkinetic-brings-kinect-like-controls-to-the-pc-video/

It seems that they will work with Lenovo in order to play in the same market as Microsoft Kinect.

Anyway, I have a former colleague that is working in Belgium for SoftKinectic. I know that they have support in their technology for ARM (TI's OMAP) and Intel ATOM.

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Rich Quinnell
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2/14/2012 12:25:03 PM
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Re: SoftKinetic
Thanks for the excellent links. It looks like there is a major underground swell of interest in these UIs. Good to bring it to the community.

Guess I've been out of gaming too long. Didn't have a clue all this was going on.

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Robotics Developer
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2/14/2012 4:00:32 PM
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Kinect Application Possibilities
I can see a number of robotic applications for the Kinect.  On YouTube and other sites there are robots being driven by people using the Kinect as the HUI "joystick".  There are a number of postings showing obstacle avoidance using the depth image information and user code.  Given the Kinect's camera, depth sensing, and microphone array there are too many applications to name.  What do others think the most interesting or innovative application will be?

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Rich Quinnell
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2/14/2012 4:22:48 PM
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Re: Kinect Application Possibilities
The one I like most is on the PopSci site, showing use of the the Kinect to make a shopping cart "heel" for a wheelchair-bound shopper. The cart follows the shopper around so the user can load groceries but not have to push the cart as his hands are full just moving through the aisles.

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Robotics Developer
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2/14/2012 4:52:25 PM
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Re: Kinect Application Possibilities
What a great idea!  If only we could adapt it for the dogs :).

I was wondering when someone will come up with an aid for the visually impaired.  Something like a machine version of a seeing eye dog but with the ability to read signs, packages, and speak / interact with the person.  This would involve OCR and some horsepower to get it right and timely.  Although the distance limits of the Kinect might preclude it from a greater acceptance, still having an audible means to navigate (around objects, over curbs, read isle numbers, contents of a package) would be really nice.

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Rich Quinnell
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2/14/2012 6:47:50 PM
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Re: Kinect Application Possibilities
I can imagine a system with stereo headsets that give out a tone varying in pitch to indicate range and using the stereo effect to give direction. I wouldn't have to be too great a range if all it is for is to help navigate around obstacles. You could add another audio clue to indicate, say, height so one could distinguish between a low table trip hazard and a wall.

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Curt Carpenter
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2/14/2012 7:17:46 PM
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Re: Kinect Application Possibilities: Rich
That sounds like a good project to me!  Building a pair of ultrasonic range finders is easy (or you can just buy them built).  Add a low power MCU with a counter/timer or so, a muxed comparator -- and I think you'll be in business!

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Robotics Developer
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2/20/2012 5:52:16 PM
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Re: Kinect Application Possibilities: Rich
Curt, I like the idea of using the low cost ultrasonic range finders!  I have used a number of them and they can get confused by the reflecting material they encounter (say for example: Diamond Plate - wrecks havoc on the distancing measurement).  The thing that was appealing to me with the Kinect is the IR sensor seems to be a little more robust than the ultrasonic rangers and has fairly decent resolution.  Given the cost of the full up Kinect, I would hope that some enterprising company would purchase the  sub-components - IR driver/sensor (if they can be bought) and create a low cost, high resolution seeing eye Kinect with voice feedback for reading signs.  Simple color and shape recognition might be possible (maybe not fast enough to be real time but quick enough) using some of the high performance / low cost processors on the market.  The neat thing is it would work in the dark better than in the light!

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Rich Quinnell
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2/21/2012 1:01:25 PM
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Re: Kinect Application Possibilities: Rich
RD, shape recognition certainly should work, but color? If you are both illuminating and "seeing" in IR, then traditional color is out of the question since it depends on wavelengths in the visible. As I understand the Kinect, it uses IR as rangefinder and has a color camera for images. That would work for color in the daytime but not at night without a white light source.

By the way, most image sensors are also sensitive in the IR and camer makers have to put in special filters to prevent the IR from contaminating the photo. Early camers didnt have them and this let them "see" body heat signatures through clothes.

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Robotics Developer
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2/21/2012 5:36:22 PM
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Re: Kinect Application Possibilities: Rich
Rich, you are right about needing light for the color camera to work.  I was refering to the distancing IR feature of the Kinect.  If the natural sunlight is too bright the IR sensor tends to be "washed out".  However, at night the IR sensor works great!  Some of the early Sony Camcorders have the IR night vision option which caused quite a stir with some videos taken (aka the "body heat").  Some fabrics also were more transparent in the IR band (much to the surprise of the wearers).

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Joe Stanganelli
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2/22/2012 4:41:20 PM
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Re: Kinect Application Possibilities
There are even more professional and recreational uses yet.  Making the assembly line more efficient.  Controlling a hovercraft.  Home automation and lighting control.

I had the pleasure of trying out the Kinect at a conference, and it was really neat.  It's cool to see this technology being adapted for academic, military, and industrial purposes as well.

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northstar
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2/17/2012 3:50:27 AM
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Cool application
Please check out this link:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/30/sandystation-interactive-sandbox-uses-kinect-to-make-topography/

Amazing how cool it is! You just play with sand, but you feel like moving continents :-)

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Rich Quinnell
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2/17/2012 12:39:32 PM
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Re: Cool application
Northstar, that is cool. It would be an interesting way of teaching map-reading in grade school, among other things.

All this with the Kinect harkens back to the theme of my blog Toys vs. Tools - the more versatile something is, the more powerful. Yet another "toy" becoming a tool. 

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northstar
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2/29/2012 8:20:36 AM
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Re: Cool application
So here is the future of shopping-carts: http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/29/whole-foods-experimenting-with-kinect-powered-shopping-carts/

They will follow you, sort your items and give advices ... this is a truely shopping-companion!

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Joe Stanganelli
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2/29/2012 12:48:19 PM
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Re: Cool application
Wow, talk about "Sit back, relax, and we'll take care of everything for you."

If it only was only equipped with robotic arms (to grab items off the shelves) and NFC (to pay at the checkout line), you could run other errands while the grocery cart does the shopping for you, and pick your groceries up when it's done!

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Rich Quinnell
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2/29/2012 1:41:48 PM
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Re: Cool application
Looks like a neat one. The blog associated with the video and many of the comments that follow make me think that this should be cross-posetd to my Luddite blog, as well.

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Rich Quinnell
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3/22/2012 9:06:12 PM
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Now, the perfect fit
The Kinect has now made it into at least one commercial product. This one, from Bodymetrics, is used in shops to help folks find jeans that provide the perfect fit. I'm continually amazed by what imaginative people can do with new technology, and even more amazed at what becomes commercially viable.

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northstar
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4/2/2012 6:38:48 AM
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Re: Now, the perfect fit
Some cool application (art?) made with Kinect sensors/camera:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/1/2918170/watch-this-kinect-dancer-musical-sculpture

 

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northstar
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5/7/2012 6:32:13 AM
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Re: Now, the perfect fit
Here is a nice video with a demo for Kinect usage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j9JXtTj0mzE

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northstar
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5/7/2012 9:09:39 AM
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Re: Now, the perfect fit
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Rich Quinnell
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5/7/2012 4:16:54 PM
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Re: Now, the perfect fit
Northstar, thanks for these additional links. The Kinect seems to have really hit a button with folks. I like the sandbox especially. It can help teach earth sciences really well (my wife's a teacher so I keep an eye out for educational apps) by visualizing things. It can even be used to teach topographic map reading.

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antedeluvian
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5/29/2012 12:14:46 PM
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Rich Quinnell
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5/30/2012 3:58:23 PM
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Re: More uses for Kinect
On the satellite application I wonder how flight-ready the Kinect is? I had to jump through flaming hoops to get an MCU qualified for space applications. Perhaps these guys aren't worried about the risk of failure due to temp, radiation, etc.

Here's a link to the MIT helicopter story.

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antedeluvian
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5/30/2012 4:24:46 PM
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Re: More uses for Kinect
I doubt that they have even started to consider the space environment yet. In addition I have some experience of NASA and capture of objects like the shuttle (at least in their specifications) with a robotic arm. It happens very slooooowly for safety reasons and is normally rehearsed many times. I wonder on the repeatabilty of the actions using the Kinect and the software would have to be able to adjust the speed of the motions. I suppose the host could record the actions and get them perfect, but there may still be safety concerns.

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Rich Quinnell
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5/31/2012 1:54:37 PM
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Re: More uses for Kinect
Yes, slow is the key when maneuvering in space. I wonder how find a control over speed and such the Kinect-based designs will have? If it's not fine enough we may see our first game-based collision in space.

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