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32-Bit MCUs Invade 8-Bit Territory

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Rich Quinnell
Rich Quinnell
3/30/2012 7:52:13 PM
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Re: Why ?
What do you mean by "downgrade?" THis is an example of a 32-bit device trying to appeal to 8-bit users. I haven't heard of any 8-bit device trying to lure 32-bit users away from any applications. I suppose it must be happening, when the 8-bit device becomes powerful enough and the application's demands haven't grown so there is a potential for cost savings, but I don't know of any such situation.

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Rich Quinnell
Rich Quinnell
3/30/2012 7:27:50 PM
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Re: Not just performance
Duane, the NXP LPC1102 is a 16-bin bga measuring about 2.2x2.3 mm. Pretty small.

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Rich Quinnell
Rich Quinnell
3/30/2012 7:18:55 PM
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Re: IAR tools
I met with Microchip at the show, and their take on this whole thing about 8 and 32 was interesting. They were glad to see so many folks getting out of the 16-bit business as it made more customer for their 16-bit parts. I also met with IAR, and they're trying to bring more commonality to tools to support simpler switches in architectures as from 8 to 32.

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Ryszard Milewicz
Ryszard Milewicz
3/30/2012 5:24:16 PM
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Re: Not just performance
NXP LPC1102 case has 5mm2 area, but it is BGA.

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Jim Turley
Jim Turley
3/30/2012 1:43:13 PM
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Small package MCUs
Energy Micro, a Norwegian company, just announced a Cortex-M3 MCU in a little bitty package that measures 4 mm on a side and 1 mm thick. It's a ball-grid array, so it's not something would could solder by hand, but it is very small.

 

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tonyxia
tonyxia
3/30/2012 1:26:46 PM
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Re: Not just performance
NXP has the popular LPC1100L series in low-pin-count packages, available in SO20, TSSOP20/28 and even DIP28.  http://www.nxp.com/products/microcontrollers/cortex_m0/lpc1100_x_l/#products

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sdijohn
sdijohn
3/30/2012 1:24:06 PM
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cortex packages and power
There are very small packages available.  One vendor has a 24-pin Cortex M0 in a QFN24 package which is 5x5mm (.200 x .200 in.) and another has one in a .217x.232mm (less than .100 x .100 in.)package.  DIP packages are also available starting at 28 pins from one vendor.  Another advantage of the M0 is current consumption - typically 120-150uA/MHz.  You can run at 8MHz and only use about 1ma of power!

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vish2207
vish2207
3/30/2012 2:39:33 AM
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Re: Why ?
There are applications that needs to downgrade our computing power. One of them is mentioned by Duane.

 

Lets take and example of Lighting control. If I want to change the duty cycle of the Power switch according to commands received remotely, I hardly need one pin for PWM and one or two pin for communication considering it to be simplest communication. Why should I drain more power by using 32 bit microcontroller there?

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Nemos
Nemos
3/29/2012 8:06:53 PM
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Why ?
"The core takes aim at power-critical designs that would normally use 8- or 16-bit MCUs"

I have one question : in witch case we need to 'downgrade" our computing power from 32 bits to 8bits ?

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duanebenson
duanebenson
3/28/2012 5:09:27 PM
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Re: Not just performance
I've never seen a small pin-count 32 bit MCU, but I find it hard to believe that there aren't any. I'm assuming I just haven't found them. If there really aren't any, that may be a key element keeping 8-bits alive.

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