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MCU News: November 2012

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jkvasan
jkvasan
11/27/2012 11:52:52 AM
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Re: 8-bit and 8051
8 bitters may or may not live but 8051 core,with its limitation of having anything in RAM above 256 bytes, ,to be addressed as external memory may soon become outdated due to all latest MCUs with internal memory that can be directly accessed. Only reason it is still in supply is because there are so many products out there which use those 89S52s and F120s.

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Rich Quinnell
Rich Quinnell
11/26/2012 4:52:51 PM
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Re: 8-bit and 8051
raul, yes the 8051 is still hanging in there, as are other 8-bit devices. While there is no need for high performance, there is no need to deviate from what has served so well for so long. And with each new process generation, the performance of 8-bit devices does climb. What will finally kill 8-bits, if it ever happens, is the rise of a universal need for features that 8-bit devices are unable to support. And I suspect that once folks have moved to a larger device architecture, they won't go back.

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Rich Quinnell
Rich Quinnell
11/26/2012 4:40:23 PM
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Re: Software?
northstar, you have described what has been a continuing problem with development tools - keeping pace with new processor introductions. Fortunately, with architectures like ARM there is a lot of code compatibility and thus a lot of tool commonality. Still, there are always variations on the theme that the tools need to accommodate.

In many cases, tool vendors work closely with the MCU vendors to develop the tool concurrently with the MCU. Then, when the new MCU is announced, there will be a corresponding tool announcement either the same day or within a day or two. At least one tool, anyway. MCU vendors know full well that they cannot sell their devices without there being development tools available for them.

This does not mean that all tool vendors will have their tools ready for the new MCU on the day of the MCU's release. Only those vendors working together during the MCU's development will have that advantage. But if the MCU's base architecture is well established, it is a good bet that the other tool vendors with products for that base will have upgraded versions out soon after the MCU itslef is released.

The situation is worse when a new architecture arises, of course. In those cases, there is often only one twool vendor offering a suitable product for some months. But the MCU vendor will make sure there is at least one.

For those using open-source tools, the availability of tool upgrades to match new processor releases is less certain. Someone in the open source community would need to get details on the new MCU and make tool changes as needed. This could take months, if it ever occurs. If the MCU isn't popular in the open source community, it may never get an open source tool.

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Rich Quinnell
Rich Quinnell
11/26/2012 2:40:19 PM
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Re: Microcontroller News
nasirjafri (and you, too, BB) glad you are finding these news updates useful. As this is not really a news site, I have wondered what to do with the information that companies send me when I don't really have much to say about them. I do try to blog on things that pique my interest, but there is plenty of other activity out there that  folks might want to know about. Glad to have found a venue for mentioning them.

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Nemos
Nemos
11/25/2012 6:04:38 PM
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Many news
Wow many news and still we are in November, imagine until the end of the year what the Santa clause of MCC industry will bring more ;) 

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MicroPower
MicroPower
11/25/2012 4:26:09 PM
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Re: 8-bit and 8051
I hope so too. As long as I still see the 8051, I still have hope the 8051 is still alive.

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MicroPower
MicroPower
11/25/2012 2:16:15 AM
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Re: 8-bit and 8051
I hope so too. As long as I still see the 8051, I still have hope the 8051 is still alive.

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nasirjafri
nasirjafri
11/23/2012 11:18:02 PM
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Excellent Rich - Thanks : News / Summaries like these help us a lot in knowing whats happening out there in the industry and what we have missed - thanks once again

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raul
raul
11/23/2012 2:54:43 PM
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8-bit and 8051
There's still a way to go for the 8051 and 8-bit, inspiring new products and making news.

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northstar
northstar
11/22/2012 11:16:46 PM
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Software?
I wonder if the software tools can keep the pace with thease new and continuous wave of new processors. By combining the ARM cores in so many designs, it is very hard to make tools dealing with those combinations. Is it enough time for sw to keep the pace with hw design, when time-to-market is so low these days?

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