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Gravity Brings Light to Darkest Africa

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Rich Quinnell
Rich Quinnell
12/21/2012 3:27:44 PM
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Re: Quick Computation
If I have guessed correctly, this light uses the weight to slowly turn a gear, that causes a faster gear motion at the generator to generate sufficient voltage. I doubt there is a flywheel or other energy storage, except maybe a supercapacitor for keeping the light going while the weight is being raised. But there is no way the system can raise the weight by itself to reset itself for an additional half hour's operation. That would violate conservation of energy.

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Davidmicro
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12/19/2012 3:55:44 PM
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Exactly, so, initial energy comes from user actions that are pulling the pre-loaded weight to turn light on, I guess that we might use Gyro concept to store the moment energy that user forces. But, it is very crucial to calculate power consumption of mechanical behavior by experiment in my opinion.

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Rich Quinnell
Rich Quinnell
12/19/2012 2:23:10 PM
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Not sure I understand what you mean in your proposal. You mentioned in your original post the MCU periodically sending the pre-loaded weight in the other direction. So, do you mean having it fall, then rise, then fall again? You would need an input of energy in order to make it rise.

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Davidmicro
Davidmicro
12/18/2012 10:28:40 PM
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Re: Quick Computation
->only needs user action every half hour or so to keep the lights burning

my intention is to minimize or remove your action every 30 [min] by using MCU. Gravity action might be automatically controlled. Of course, at the first time, your action is required to turn light on. After that, all internal mechanism is automatic, until user action is triggered to turn light off.  Does this method violate Energy Conservative Law?

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Rich Quinnell
Rich Quinnell
12/18/2012 11:56:58 AM
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David, ultra low-power MCUs are available and a supercapacitor could store enough charge to run the MCU for a while, but why bother? If you want the light to stay primed and ready to come on only when needed, you could add a simple light sensor and have it controlling latch or brake on the weight mechanism. The ambinet light would provide the power needed to do so, and when ambient light faded the brake would release and the gravity light take over. Still seems an unnecessary complication, though, for the intended application.

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Davidmicro
Davidmicro
12/17/2012 9:53:41 PM
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I guess that power energy should be calculated correctly for using MCU. But let us assume that this system can provide enough energy sources to ultra low power MCU for a certain period. Then as implementing the timer with switch, automatic triggering light might be designed without using hand continuously every time. To do this type design, an appropriate weight should be pre-loaded. Output of MCU commands the switch to go pre-loaded weight to other direction, when timer is expired. Timer control bit is configured at MCU.

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Rich Quinnell
Rich Quinnell
12/17/2012 3:09:57 PM
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You may well be right that the mechanics of the generator in this design could be scaled and adapted to provide more electricity and use a different mechanism to drive the generator. I'll bet someone could come up with a mechanism that could work that way. I can envision a giant hourglass type mechanism where sand trickles into a bucket on a wheel that turns a gear to pull the strap that goes through the light. It could be pre-loaded with sand enough to run for hours and perhaps power multiple generators off of the same wheel.

These guys, though,were looking for a low-cost, portable, rugged one-person mechanism that could use whatever was at hand to form the weight driving the generator. It's a specific set of constraints that solar and batteries don't address. Needing water is an issue, as well, and even if you get past the supply issue you need to find a way to raise that water to a height and store it there to run the generator. As to using a fine powder as a fluid, we then have the problem of airborne dust to face. That dust is both an irritant to the users and potentially damaging to the mechanism.

Within its target constraints, I think it is a pretty good solution.

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Rich Quinnell
Rich Quinnell
12/17/2012 2:51:14 PM
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Re: Not exactly "Harvesting Energy"...
You have valid point about not calling this "energy harvesting" in that this involves the deliberate input of work to run the system. As this requires the continual input of human energy that would not otherwise have been involved, it is probably better described as "pure generation" (as opposed to needing batteries.)

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Massimo Manca
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12/17/2012 2:49:26 PM
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@Rich: sure, it is only for individuals but the point is that it delivers too little energy. I know that Africans have problems also with water but wait just a moment and suppose they have.

If you can transform gravity in electrical energy you need some sort of generator so I suppose that their idea is to move a rotational generator with a weight coming down at low speed. But more energy you need more heavy the weight have to be and more difficult is to move it when it will be on the floor. So, the answer is a "home made dam" with a generator that should be a nano turbine or may be a simple wheel, it doesn't matter so much because also if the gain is a lot under of unity it makes possible to move more weight with less (unitary) effort.

So, the problem should be to use a different fluid because there is not so much water in Africa to use at home to produce electricity. May be that with very fine powder it can work quite well and so they should generate more energy for more time.

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Rich Quinnell
Rich Quinnell
12/17/2012 2:09:06 PM
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Massimo, I think they mention that 30 minutes is the run time, not an hour, and the problem with batteries is their cost and need for replacement. Depending on how rugged this is, it could last for years with no need to replace anything.

For an entire village the solar system you propose might make the most sense. I get the feeling this is intended to be an individual solution.

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