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Tips for Crossing the Language Barrier

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Curt Carpenter
Curt Carpenter
12/31/2012 12:02:10 PM
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Re: Interpretation
Barney Bear can barely bear being bare.

English is a ridiculous language.  It explains why we need so many lawyers.

 

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Raju Khubchandani
Raju Khubchandani
12/31/2012 11:06:20 AM
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antedeluvian, thanks for informing the title of the song, seems it is not by Beatles.

My deduction is "that in English some letters can be pronounced different ways", is because English has a limited set of  only 26 characters. There is little room in Hindi to pronounce the same character/word in different ways, because of availability of more characters and matras(accents?) in Hindi.


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antedeluvian
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12/31/2012 10:50:19 AM
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Raju

Just for the "record" the song is called "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off" and was written by George and Ira Gershwin in 1937. It has been recorded by many artists, including Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys, but never by the Beatles (that I can find).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let's_Call_the_Whole_Thing_Off

I actually once heard a documentary about the songs the Beatles would have heard as they were growing up and how this influenced their music, but I still cannot find any direct connection.

 

I am not disputing your comments, but you musn't forget that in English some letters can be pronounced different ways, so counting 26 letters and saying that there is only one way to pronounce per letter is incorrect, and belies some of the difficulties for non-English speakers. As an example George Bernard Shaw is reputed to have said you could spell "fish" as "ghoti". The "gh" from cough, the "ti" from motion and the "o" sounding like an "i" as in women.

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Raju Khubchandani
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12/31/2012 10:23:56 AM
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SA_Penguin, a famous Beatles song lyrics are something like "You say Tamaato, I say Tameeto...".

English may be the world's most spoken and unterstood language, but sadly it is not phonetically sound. English has only 26 characters. German and French, althoug they use the English alphabets, they add another 10-15 accents.

Hindi (India's national language) has 48 characters and ~ 10 matras, which helps make it much more phonetically sound.

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ASEEMOV
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12/31/2012 3:48:14 AM
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Yeah, I find it rather funny when people say Indian accent :-). Because there is no standard - one Indian accent. Within India accent dramatically and drastically varies from place to place and state to state. The reason for this major variation in English accent is because of several [at least 26] different native languages - even the language script differs. Things get even more complicated than in Europe because of completely different scripts. I could catch Spanish and Portuguese within a few weeks - unfortunately, I have not been quite successful with some of the south Indian languages and there are times when I still feel like a stranger or foreigner within my own country! Sad but true... __av

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SA_Penguin
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12/31/2012 3:22:49 AM
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English to English...

My [Thai] wife was justifiably proud of learning English. She was doing pretty well here in Australia - until she needed a hospital, and the doctor spoke with a thick Indian accent.

Aside from the trauma of being unable to understand her doctor, it shredded her confidence. The solution: remedial English classes. Not for HER [she was best in class] - but to hear how other nationalities distorted standard English phrases.

 

 

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ASEEMOV
ASEEMOV
12/30/2012 3:27:24 AM
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Re: Tips for Crossing the Language Barrier
Yes, I meant without interpreters unless you the interpreter is a technical person himself! 

 

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vish2207
vish2207
12/29/2012 7:56:46 AM
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I agree with you JK. Eastern countries have very unique way of speaking english provided if you found someone speaking english. China has very less english speakers and you surely need interpreter. The Indian accent is still lagible compared to other eastern countries.

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Ryszard Milewicz
Ryszard Milewicz
12/28/2012 6:25:21 PM
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Re: English is still the International language
Chinese ;-)  In this century.

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David Maciel - UDTEC
David Maciel - UDTEC
12/28/2012 3:59:05 PM
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Re: Tips for Crossing the Language Barrier

I agree with you Marc, sometimes the translation is not done well by the interpreter for not mastering the subject.

But most of the times when the speaker speaks more slowly have a greater ease in understanding.




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